Where has Sargeras been?




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Sargeras will be the final boss of WoW’s 5th expansion.  That I’m sure of.  But where has he been in the meantime?  The common misconception is that he’s dead.  That’s a load of bunk.  He’s as alive as ever.  That said, Blizzard definitely went out of their way to make it as confusing as possible.

I’ll sum up some of the details here, but for the entire story, you should check out the Sargeras entry on WoWpedia.  As it goes, the problem with Sargeras lies within his famous defeat at the hand of Medivh’s mother Aegwynn.  To just add salt to the wound we then have “The Tomb of Sargeras” rising out of the ocean southeast of the Maelstrom.

So what the heck happened?


Let’s jump back really fast to 10,000 years ago during the War of the Ancients.  At the heart of the war was the Burning Legion trying desperately to open a portal to where Sargeras resided, so he could physically enter Azeroth.  It is *heavily* implied throughout the story that Sargeras’ mere entry into Azeroth would be enough to sunder it.  Consider what happened when Deathwing came back.  Now, consider this:  Compared to Sargeras, Deathwing is about as dangerous as an armor plated housefly.  Fortunately, the good guys won the War of the Ancients, so Sargeras never showed up.

 

It all finally goes pear-shaped a few years later when Sargeras shows up in the frozen north and is defeated by Aegwynn.  Well– obviously this didn’t make any sense.  Here’s the fine print: What Aegwyn defeated was an *avatar* of Sargeras.  His plan all along on this particular “outing” was to enter Azeroth via an avatar, be attacked by Aegwynn, lose to her, and promptly implant his spirit within her, allowing him to later take possession of Medivh.  His plan worked flawlessly.

Everything would have gone to hell (literally) if it wasn’t for Medivh’s apprentice Khadgar, who noticed the corruption.  Medivh was ultimately decapitated by Lothar himself, and the last time we saw Sargeras was when his spirit was erupting from the bloody stump of Medivh’s neck.

So, just to be clear, what Aegwyn defeated was an avatar of Sargeras, and it’s the corpse of that Avatar that is buried in the “Tomb of Sargeras”.  Some have suggested that it was only a “part” of Sargeras’ spirt that originally possessed the avatar.  I think that’s hogwash, or I at least hope it is, because that whole idea just comes across as half-baked.  ”Oh, er– it wasn’t Sargeras’ spirit.  It was just a small part of it!”  Why?  What would be the point of doing that?  The lore stands just fine as it is.  To retcon the story so it was only part of his essence would only diminish the lore we already know.


So– where is Sargeras now?  If we use the pattern Blizzard established with the Lich King and Deathwing, then it’s likely that Sargeras has been out of commission since Medivh’s defeat. His spirit has then likely been traveling along the Twisting Nether back to its body, which has probably been comatose this whole time similar to Malfurion Stormrage.  But– if we follow what happened with Illidan, then Sargeras is already back home with his body and merely awaiting his next chance to assault Azeroth.  Either way, I think we can derive a pretty clear picture of what will happen at the end of the 4th expansion (the one with Azshara):

There is another “Dark Portal” (note the quotes).  This “Dark Portal” has lain dormant since the sundering, and it is *much* more dangerous than any other portal we’ve encountered.  Where as the original Dark Portal leads to Outland, this “Dark Portal” leads to Sargeras’ homeworld, probably Argus.  After Azshara is killed, something is going to happen with that portal.  The real question is, from which end will it be opened?  Will it be restored and reopened on our side, probably by the Naga?  Or will the Burning Legion open it on our end.  I think the answer will ultimately tie into what Sargeras has been doing this whole time.  If he’s been making his way back home since the death of Medivh, then it’s likely that his reunification with his physical body will be the catalyst that causes the Burning Legion to re-open it.  If, on the other hand, Sargeras has been reunited with his body for quite some time, then it’s likely the Burning Legion is unable to open it, which would mean it happens on Azeroth.

Either way, we’ll just have to wait and see.

{ 14 comments… read them below or add one }

1 honorshammer July - 2011 at 6:37 am

The storyteller in me would have it opened from Azeroth. I love it when stories present the hero with two conflicting choices. I must defeat Azshara, but in doing so, I will cause the dark portal to open allowing Sargeras and the Burning Legion access to Azeoth. But if I don’t defeat Azshara something equally nasty happens. Of course, the implication is we go to Argus in the final expansion, so the better question would be what are we going to go to Argus for. I also wonder what role the Bolvar Lich King will play in either the fourth or fifth expansions.

2 Milan Sovilj July - 2011 at 3:48 pm

It would be fun to fight him on Argus, but I hope everything isnt like hellfire over there. I worry that the World would resemble firelands, and it would be terrible if every zone was the same.

On a side note. Would the titans even try to help us, or will they try and pull a stunt like nuking azeroth if sargeras is there?

What of the old gods? Could they also be battling sargeras at this point if there are still any about.

3 Cocles July - 2011 at 3:52 pm

Also, don’t forget that the Scourge still arguably has a bone to pick with the Burning Legion.

4 escobar July - 2011 at 9:06 pm

WOW just keeps raping the old warcraft lore. Basically sargeras is level above kil’jaeden and archimonde, he’s a titan, which basically makes him a god. Can you fight a god? no. In lotr universe it would be as humans would fight saurons boss (Morgoth tells google).

5 Cocles July - 2011 at 9:32 pm

Well… the old warcraft lore made a big point of showing us that Sargeras is vulnerable when Broxigar managed to wound Sargeras before Brox was killed. I’m not saying you’re wrong, but if your thoughts are on the right path, then what was the point of Brox’s sacrifice? Or are you saying there was no point to them?

6 Isenhame July - 2011 at 9:35 am

Ugh, that whole Broxigar thing was just awful, and I don’t know if I’d call that old lore. That enchanted wooden axe, and an orc in the war of the ancients was just bad plotline, IMO.

Look what it took to beat Archimonde. Kil’Jaeden is just as powerful, and still out there; shortcutting him to get to Sargeras doesn’t really make sense. And taking down Sargeras himself….just seems beyond the scope of a 25 man raid group.

I’m not saying you’re wrong, but I wonder if you think as I do, that the lore is becoming more and more watered down with these supplemental books, and adjusting it be more “playable” for WoW….

I for one was incredibly dissapointed by the Lich King fight. Where was he Scarlet Onslaught? We didn’t completely destroy them, and we were too busy fighting amongst ourselves for them to worry about us during the ICC raid. How about instead of the exceptionally weak plotline of Tirion pally ice-blocking and then “miraculously”breaking free. (Northrend was bleak, not the setting for frequent miracles!)

Instead, how about Tirion being occupied fighting something for the fight, and the Scarlets showing up to help him finish that off after we get slain. Then he can still go super-paladin, and we get a truly bleak moment. We only win because the last of the Scarlet Onslaught shows up at the right time…probably gets destroyed, but tilts the battle just enough our way to take the win. At least Tirion would deserve the statues then…

I don’t know about you, but I don’t want to be Tirion, or Jaina, or Thrall, or whoever’s equal. If we were, it’d be a single player game, not an MMO. We should need these heroes battling with us to take out the great evils of the world, not chilling out in an ice cube, while we prove they’re utterly useless.

/rant.

7 Cocles July - 2011 at 9:31 pm

@Isenhame You’re right, it’d probably be more accurate to describe it as “old WoW lore”.

I think you begin to tap into the source of the problem within your final paragraph. In WoW, level 60 was considered a badass. Now we’re all 85. The Azeroth of WoW is now a world where “average” means you’re a “mortal god”. And that’s just it… how can “average” and “mortal god” be the same thing? It’s confusing. Could 25 mortal gods kill Sargeras? Sure, sounds reasonable. Could 25 “average” people kill him? No, that’s just absurd. But when it comes to WoW’s Azeroth, those are the same question.

It’s not that it’s “watered down” as you say; it’s the exact opposite. It’s “overblown”. A planet populated almost entirely with mortal gods? Yeesh.

I like you’re idea of Tirion being occupied during the Lich King fight instead of frozen within a block of ice. With the Scarlett Crusade though, I honestly think they’re portrayed differently between the Alliance and Horde, but I was never able to precisely spot where that happened. I have a feeling there was a quest I missed somewhere. On the Horde side, the Scarlett Crusade/Onslaught are pure 100% villains. They’re zealous psychopaths who will kill anything living or undead that isn’t part of their group. I know when played my Horde character through WotLK, I wiped them out with zeal. And yes, I think they were wiped out and everything in the lore supports that. It’s just hard to convey that when the mobs respawn every two minutes. We wiped out every single level of their leader ship, and butchered virtually everything else. I frankly would have been pissed if the Scarlett Crusade showed up during that fight. It would have been like the Twilight Cult showing up to help.

I liked Brox and I liked Krasus in the War of the Ancients. Krasus definitely fit, and I think Brox did as well and led to some intriguing lore that has yet to be fully milked. With Tyrande and Brox being so close, why have we never seen Tyrande make an effort to meet Saurfang? That would be an awesome moment. It’d be even better if Tyrande didn’t know of Saurfang’s relation to Brox until he told her.

No– my beef was with Rhonin. He only seemed to be there for the alliance fans. “Well we have an Orc… we have to have a human!” It’s silly. Why do you need a special Alliance player representative in a story filled with Night Elves? At least we got to see how a modern mage could perform when presented with the full Well of Eternity. That was at least cool.

8 DK4DAWIN October - 2011 at 8:50 pm

Love ur posts man!

When you make another??

9 Cocles October - 2011 at 10:41 pm

With BlizzCon tomorrow you can be sure I’ll have something up this weekend if not sooner. ;)

10 Agent Possible January - 2012 at 6:52 pm

Almost all of the factions of WoW have a bone to pick with the Burning Legion. I think that every faction, good and bad will unite to destroy Sargeras once and for all.It kinda makes up for a good ending in WoW’s final expansion.

11 Agent Possible January - 2012 at 7:01 pm

I forgot to add something. If Sargeras sets foot upon Azeroth he will obliterate it.The same time the Panthions came down to Azeroth to find their world in flames would make them so sad that they can’t stand Azeroth being
tortured so they decide to destroy it completely and rebuild it from scratch.

12 @Agent Possible January - 2012 at 4:07 pm

Hmm…

The plot for that final boss level is when we end up fighting Sargeras with some other Titan who came back to check on the worlds the Panthion created. Somehow Sargeras gets to Azeroth and obliterates it while we are still on his homeplanet, this ends up killing the old gods and all life&magic in the world. (Lets call the other titan BOB) Bob restores the world by merging it with a other planet they made. The hero/’s(you & whoever survived the battle are transported to a remote part of the new world, trying to rebuild whatever they can of their old world. END*

*Warcraft 4 anybody? I’d rather not go with another MMO even though the lore is good.

13 @Agent Possible January - 2012 at 4:08 pm

OPPS, plothole… BOB kills sargeras as he destorys the old world?

14 ^Same person^ January - 2012 at 4:12 pm

Here’s another opinion about WowLK,

You guys do remeber that the Lich King pretty much set Arthus up to die once he found out Arthas was a arrogantpunk? He needed a new person who he could slowly corrupt and possibly escape with to a diffrent world during the final battle against Sargeras.

Opinions are welcomed to my posts

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