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		<title>By: cody</title>
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		<dc:creator>cody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 01:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>acuity naga wont be on the alliance either way because in WC3 the naga teamed yp with Illidan who betrayed the night elves and the night elves greatest enemy r the naga because the naga used to be night elves that evolved so naga  would never be alliance just because the hate they had for the night elves</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>acuity naga wont be on the alliance either way because in WC3 the naga teamed yp with Illidan who betrayed the night elves and the night elves greatest enemy r the naga because the naga used to be night elves that evolved so naga  would never be alliance just because the hate they had for the night elves</p>
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		<title>By: Allmalice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allmalice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 21:13:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Plus Ogres were part of the horde at one point and so were goblins. The worgen can&#039;t join the Horde because the Forsaken despise them so that would not fit</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Plus Ogres were part of the horde at one point and so were goblins. The worgen can&#8217;t join the Horde because the Forsaken despise them so that would not fit</p>
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		<title>By: Perapsam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Perapsam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 18:08:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyway, good preview. I always thought the only currently existing races that could ever POSSIBLY be playable in World of Warcraft that arn&#039;t already were Furbolgs, Pandaren, Goblins, Worgen, and Ogres. Heres my overview of each - As you will see below, the former two I mentioned (Pandarens and Furbolgs) don&#039;t have much going for them but they&#039;re better options than most, like the Naga. Anyway...
Worgen and Goblins are in already. I think they are perfectly fine choices in terms of lore, graphics, and areas to establish a city, although faction was the subject of debate before the two were announced for real. Besides, both of them are classic fantasy creatures if you consider Worgen werewolves. Why is this relevant? Because everybody knows what they are and can get stuck into their character easily. Even the Draenei are supposed to represent demons/imps. And the humans, well, you have to have humans. Anyway, Pandaren and Furbolgs are unique to the game and most people will go with what they&#039;re familiar with.
Pandaren, speaking of which, are out. Well, maybe not, but I&#039;m 99.9% sure they are. This is because the Chinese got offended by the Pandaren because of their likeness to pandas or something, I don&#039;t know. Either way, it doesn&#039;t matter to Blizzard, because China makes up a huge part of their playerbase  and if the Chinese get upset and quit playing, then A LOT of money is being lost. And this affects us, too. Remember: It&#039;s the player&#039;s money that allows Blizzard to sustain WoW and give us new, exciting things within it. On their part, it&#039;s a no brainer I&#039;m afraid.
Furbolgs, lore-wise, would make perfect sense to join the Alliance. They were on great terms with the Night Elves and recently the Draenei, and they could have had a good starting area in the form of Hyjal. Graphically speaking, though, Furbolgs would be hard to implement. And only two tribes of them are friendly, one of which is neutral and won&#039;t get involved. So thats... what, 100 furbolgs? That aint&#039; gonna cut it. So Furbolgs are doubtful, but it could happen. Just don&#039;t hold your breath.
Finally, we have the Ogres. I have faith in the Ogres becoming a playable race, actually. They&#039;re classic fantasy monsters, for one, and another thing they&#039;ve got going for them is the chance of acceptance into either the Horde OR the Alliance, although Ogres hate humans so thats leaning towardss the Horde a bit. Many don&#039;t think Ogres could cut it because, well, they&#039;re pretty big. However, there are Tauren-sized Ogres in places, and they could definitely be made into a playable race. The only real problem is starting area... perhaps another island - based city?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyway, good preview. I always thought the only currently existing races that could ever POSSIBLY be playable in World of Warcraft that arn&#8217;t already were Furbolgs, Pandaren, Goblins, Worgen, and Ogres. Heres my overview of each &#8211; As you will see below, the former two I mentioned (Pandarens and Furbolgs) don&#8217;t have much going for them but they&#8217;re better options than most, like the Naga. Anyway&#8230;</p>
<p>Worgen and Goblins are in already. I think they are perfectly fine choices in terms of lore, graphics, and areas to establish a city, although faction was the subject of debate before the two were announced for real. Besides, both of them are classic fantasy creatures if you consider Worgen werewolves. Why is this relevant? Because everybody knows what they are and can get stuck into their character easily. Even the Draenei are supposed to represent demons/imps. And the humans, well, you have to have humans. Anyway, Pandaren and Furbolgs are unique to the game and most people will go with what they&#8217;re familiar with.</p>
<p>Pandaren, speaking of which, are out. Well, maybe not, but I&#8217;m 99.9% sure they are. This is because the Chinese got offended by the Pandaren because of their likeness to pandas or something, I don&#8217;t know. Either way, it doesn&#8217;t matter to Blizzard, because China makes up a huge part of their playerbase  and if the Chinese get upset and quit playing, then A LOT of money is being lost. And this affects us, too. Remember: It&#8217;s the player&#8217;s money that allows Blizzard to sustain WoW and give us new, exciting things within it. On their part, it&#8217;s a no brainer I&#8217;m afraid.</p>
<p>Furbolgs, lore-wise, would make perfect sense to join the Alliance. They were on great terms with the Night Elves and recently the Draenei, and they could have had a good starting area in the form of Hyjal. Graphically speaking, though, Furbolgs would be hard to implement. And only two tribes of them are friendly, one of which is neutral and won&#8217;t get involved. So thats&#8230; what, 100 furbolgs? That aint&#8217; gonna cut it. So Furbolgs are doubtful, but it could happen. Just don&#8217;t hold your breath.</p>
<p>Finally, we have the Ogres. I have faith in the Ogres becoming a playable race, actually. They&#8217;re classic fantasy monsters, for one, and another thing they&#8217;ve got going for them is the chance of acceptance into either the Horde OR the Alliance, although Ogres hate humans so thats leaning towardss the Horde a bit. Many don&#8217;t think Ogres could cut it because, well, they&#8217;re pretty big. However, there are Tauren-sized Ogres in places, and they could definitely be made into a playable race. The only real problem is starting area&#8230; perhaps another island &#8211; based city?</p>
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		<title>By: Perapsam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Perapsam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 15:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Naga could never be playable. It&#039;s not so much the graphical design and physics that would be the problem - Naga models wearing armour have been seen, the boots and pants being a big sock, although it looks pretty damn ridiculous. And I&#039;m not even going to bother pointing out the equally stupid-sounding solutions to mounts and leg-based attack.
The real problem is lore. Night Elves hate the Naga, and if they join the Alliance, then the Night Elves would leave. It&#039;s as simple as that. So that leaves only the Horde, who arn&#039;t on good terms with the race either.
And this isn&#039;t even relevant because all of the Naga are enslaved by Azshara, some by Illidan. In answer, many people have come up with the &#039;breaking free&#039; theories, like the Forsaken. The Forsaken only managed to establish themselves because of Illidan invading the Frozen Throne. Azshara is much more powerful than the Lich King (Proof: She is a Demigodess) so it would be significently harder for the Naga to deny her will - This similarly applies to Illidan. And besides, the Naga are fiercly loyal to their masters. Why should they leave their masters for one of two random groups they&#039;ve been attacking relentlessly for centuries?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Naga could never be playable. It&#8217;s not so much the graphical design and physics that would be the problem &#8211; Naga models wearing armour have been seen, the boots and pants being a big sock, although it looks pretty damn ridiculous. And I&#8217;m not even going to bother pointing out the equally stupid-sounding solutions to mounts and leg-based attack.</p>
<p>The real problem is lore. Night Elves hate the Naga, and if they join the Alliance, then the Night Elves would leave. It&#8217;s as simple as that. So that leaves only the Horde, who arn&#8217;t on good terms with the race either.</p>
<p>And this isn&#8217;t even relevant because all of the Naga are enslaved by Azshara, some by Illidan. In answer, many people have come up with the &#8216;breaking free&#8217; theories, like the Forsaken. The Forsaken only managed to establish themselves because of Illidan invading the Frozen Throne. Azshara is much more powerful than the Lich King (Proof: She is a Demigodess) so it would be significently harder for the Naga to deny her will &#8211; This similarly applies to Illidan. And besides, the Naga are fiercly loyal to their masters. Why should they leave their masters for one of two random groups they&#8217;ve been attacking relentlessly for centuries?</p>
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		<title>By: Beast</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 05:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh.  Also, another reason why nagas fail.  What classes would they have?  There&#039;s not a big variety.  They could have mage, warrior, shaman, and death knight*.  That&#039;s all I can think of.  If you wanted to get weird, I guess you could add rogue, but think about it.
It couldn&#039;t use Kick.  It&#039;d just slap it with it&#039;s hard tail.  OUCH!
Sinister Strike requires slightly long and agile arms.  Another failure.
Shadowstep?  Do I need to explain?
Killing Spree.  Requires a little more agility?  :P
That&#039;s all I can think of.  Well, good night!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh.  Also, another reason why nagas fail.  What classes would they have?  There&#8217;s not a big variety.  They could have mage, warrior, shaman, and death knight*.  That&#8217;s all I can think of.  If you wanted to get weird, I guess you could add rogue, but think about it.</p>
<p>It couldn&#8217;t use Kick.  It&#8217;d just slap it with it&#8217;s hard tail.  OUCH!<br />
Sinister Strike requires slightly long and agile arms.  Another failure.<br />
Shadowstep?  Do I need to explain?<br />
Killing Spree.  Requires a little more agility?  <img src='http://www.loregy.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>That&#8217;s all I can think of.  Well, good night!</p>
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		<title>By: Beast</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 05:00:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is my opinion about this race debate.
Naga:
            The naga could not be playable.  They couldn&#039;t wear armor.  o.O  Sure, they can weild a sword and put on a breastplate, but where will the boots go?  They don&#039;t have feet, thus making them unplayable.
Goblin:
              Personally, I think this is a good choice.  I love me some goblins!  They can wear all the gear, and the pact with the Horde makes sense.  They&#039;re fine, in my opinion.  :)
Worgen:
                 Honestly, it seems a bit inbalanced.  Why do they get wolves to chomp the little goblins up?  Another question: how are you going to make a female worgen?  Would it just be a male worgen with different colored fur?  On another note, holding weapons for the worgens is a little strange.  Think of it -- a worgen hunter?  -.-  My final opinion on worgens is that it&#039;s not the best idea.  I always thought werewolves were sworn enemies of the humans.  Maybe not.
Classes:
Worgen Hunter?  Fail
Troll Druid?  Fail
Tauren Paladin?  A holy cow, but I think it&#039;s unoriginal.
Goblin Warrior?  Sorta.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is my opinion about this race debate.</p>
<p>Naga:<br />
            The naga could not be playable.  They couldn&#8217;t wear armor.  o.O  Sure, they can weild a sword and put on a breastplate, but where will the boots go?  They don&#8217;t have feet, thus making them unplayable.</p>
<p>Goblin:<br />
              Personally, I think this is a good choice.  I love me some goblins!  They can wear all the gear, and the pact with the Horde makes sense.  They&#8217;re fine, in my opinion.  <img src='http://www.loregy.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Worgen:<br />
                 Honestly, it seems a bit inbalanced.  Why do they get wolves to chomp the little goblins up?  Another question: how are you going to make a female worgen?  Would it just be a male worgen with different colored fur?  On another note, holding weapons for the worgens is a little strange.  Think of it &#8212; a worgen hunter?  -.-  My final opinion on worgens is that it&#8217;s not the best idea.  I always thought werewolves were sworn enemies of the humans.  Maybe not.</p>
<p>Classes:</p>
<p>Worgen Hunter?  Fail<br />
Troll Druid?  Fail<br />
Tauren Paladin?  A holy cow, but I think it&#8217;s unoriginal.<br />
Goblin Warrior?  Sorta.</p>
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		<title>By: Dafu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dafu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 15:15:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just thought I&#039;d throw this bit of thought out there... Naga have no legs. Think of the implications of that. Having no legs closes all sorts of doors, can&#039;t ride any existing mount, would be awkward in situations where legs are handy like climbing stairs or ladders. Existing lower body armor pieces and boots won&#039;t make sense. Skill descriptions and icons will have a poor fit too.
It&#039;s a bipedal world, I say Naga will never happen for that reason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just thought I&#8217;d throw this bit of thought out there&#8230; Naga have no legs. Think of the implications of that. Having no legs closes all sorts of doors, can&#8217;t ride any existing mount, would be awkward in situations where legs are handy like climbing stairs or ladders. Existing lower body armor pieces and boots won&#8217;t make sense. Skill descriptions and icons will have a poor fit too.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a bipedal world, I say Naga will never happen for that reason.</p>
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		<title>By: wowaholic</title>
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		<dc:creator>wowaholic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 14:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In WC3 the naga teamed with the Blood Elf prince. So if naga were to be the next race it would be a horde race with there tie-ins to the Blood Elves and how there basically mutated elves. But I do agree that they aren&#039;t really that himanoid so I don&#039;t think they would be in the game.
As for goblins and worgens goblins are an obvious horde race and they would give the horde a short race to play. Worgens I don&#039;t see how to fit then into the alliance lore wise, but they would give alliance a more dark race to balace out with the forsaken</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In WC3 the naga teamed with the Blood Elf prince. So if naga were to be the next race it would be a horde race with there tie-ins to the Blood Elves and how there basically mutated elves. But I do agree that they aren&#8217;t really that himanoid so I don&#8217;t think they would be in the game.<br />
As for goblins and worgens goblins are an obvious horde race and they would give the horde a short race to play. Worgens I don&#8217;t see how to fit then into the alliance lore wise, but they would give alliance a more dark race to balace out with the forsaken</p>
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		<title>By: GnollDruidPCsFTW</title>
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		<dc:creator>GnollDruidPCsFTW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 22:56:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally, unlike most of the opinions I am reading, if the two races are Worgen and Goblins, I think Worgen are the lamer race.  Goblins are tiny, and funny, and awesome, which the Horde doesn&#039;t have yet.  Think of the Goblin-Gnome rivalries if the Horde gets the goblins. In fact, if goblins do end up being the race for the Horde,  I am willing to bet the next battleground involves a battle between the gnomes and goblins, with engineering and contraptions playing a big part in the battleground. You will enter the battleground and have to take over various points which would then give your side the ability to use various crazy engineering contraptions, like hang-gliders and lasers and giant bombs and things like that.
Worgen just seem too &quot;fanboy&quot; to me:
&quot;Cool! Werewolves! That has to be the next race, because Werewolves kick ass! The only thing better than Werewolves is if we could be Vampires!&quot;
&quot;Yeah, Vampires,  but they used to be elves....or what about demons.....I know Demonic Elven Vampires that can turn into Werewolves!&quot;
&quot;Yeah! Blizzard rocks!&quot;
I admit, the location of Gilneas makes sense for the Worgen, but that&#039;s all that makes sense. I don&#039;t buy the masks being a clue.  Why would Blizz put Hallows End  masks out for the new races in an expansion that has no prayer of being released anytime near this year&#039;s Hallow&#039;s End? If it is for next year, why would they put them in a patch this year? I think they would wait until a patch next year, or include it in the discs that ship with the expansion. I think it is much more likely that they just wanted to add more masks for people to collect, and the female Worgen are just there for kicks because it looks really silly (and it does).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, unlike most of the opinions I am reading, if the two races are Worgen and Goblins, I think Worgen are the lamer race.  Goblins are tiny, and funny, and awesome, which the Horde doesn&#8217;t have yet.  Think of the Goblin-Gnome rivalries if the Horde gets the goblins. In fact, if goblins do end up being the race for the Horde,  I am willing to bet the next battleground involves a battle between the gnomes and goblins, with engineering and contraptions playing a big part in the battleground. You will enter the battleground and have to take over various points which would then give your side the ability to use various crazy engineering contraptions, like hang-gliders and lasers and giant bombs and things like that.</p>
<p>Worgen just seem too &#8220;fanboy&#8221; to me:</p>
<p>&#8220;Cool! Werewolves! That has to be the next race, because Werewolves kick ass! The only thing better than Werewolves is if we could be Vampires!&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Yeah, Vampires,  but they used to be elves&#8230;.or what about demons&#8230;..I know Demonic Elven Vampires that can turn into Werewolves!&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Yeah! Blizzard rocks!&#8221;</p>
<p>I admit, the location of Gilneas makes sense for the Worgen, but that&#8217;s all that makes sense. I don&#8217;t buy the masks being a clue.  Why would Blizz put Hallows End  masks out for the new races in an expansion that has no prayer of being released anytime near this year&#8217;s Hallow&#8217;s End? If it is for next year, why would they put them in a patch this year? I think they would wait until a patch next year, or include it in the discs that ship with the expansion. I think it is much more likely that they just wanted to add more masks for people to collect, and the female Worgen are just there for kicks because it looks really silly (and it does).</p>
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		<title>By: Meh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Meh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 23:30:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i dont particulary like the new races (if they are truly goblin and worgen)
Worgen may be ok,it depends on how its done.But Goblin are too similar too Gnomes ,i mean,they are a cool race,but they could take the spotlight away from Gnomes.
I would prefer Naga for Horde (they could find new allies in the Forsaken and Blood elves ) ,Pandaren for any of them or maybe Centaur for the Horde(they could be redeemed by the Pariah).That would be cool.
And i have a question,what where the Ironforge dwarves and the Stormwind humans doing during the 3d war?they were attacked?they just waited while their allies were being eaten by the undead?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i dont particulary like the new races (if they are truly goblin and worgen)<br />
Worgen may be ok,it depends on how its done.But Goblin are too similar too Gnomes ,i mean,they are a cool race,but they could take the spotlight away from Gnomes.</p>
<p>I would prefer Naga for Horde (they could find new allies in the Forsaken and Blood elves ) ,Pandaren for any of them or maybe Centaur for the Horde(they could be redeemed by the Pariah).That would be cool.</p>
<p>And i have a question,what where the Ironforge dwarves and the Stormwind humans doing during the 3d war?they were attacked?they just waited while their allies were being eaten by the undead?</p>
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