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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 May 2010 17:36:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>!!!!
Get a girlfriend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>!!!!<br />
Get a girlfriend.</p>
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		<title>By: Brent</title>
		<link>http://www.loregy.com/world-of-warcraft/gilneas/comment-page-1/#comment-1098</link>
		<dc:creator>Brent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 06:13:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;q cite=&quot;AwesomeDude&quot;&gt;Well of course now we all know that the Worgen are going to be with the Alliance, but this is just to tell you why the naga would never be with the horde, or with the Alliance, *ahem*
    1. They’re incredibly evil, and in their highborne years served Azshara without question.
    2. The argument, “They’re high elves just like Sylvanas, so theres a connection there” doesn’t work, seeing as how High Elves are degenerated from Night Elves. When the sundering occured, the pink-skinned blood and high elves we know today had not existed yet. So, they would still be Night Elves, only ones who practice arcane magic or w/e.&lt;/q&gt;
Wow, I&#039;m sorry but that shows a distinct lack of accurate knowledge of the Lore of WoW.
1. Firstly, Naga didn&#039;t exist when the Sundering occurred either.  The Naga are the Highborne elves (who were night elves at the time) who were twisted by the evil magics of the Old Golds after Azshara, Queen of the Kaldorei, made a pact with them.
2. High Elves and Blood Elves are those Highborne who didn&#039;t go with the Queen into the depths but chose to join the Kaldorei Resistance before the last battle in the War of the Ancients.
3. The Naga still serve Azshara without question since she&#039;s still their Queen due to her immortality mutation.  This point from what you said holds true with why they won&#039;t join the Alliance, though not because of their time as Highborne.
I agree with the fact that Naga would never join the Alliance, but it has nothing to do with the Kaldorei blood lines, and everything to do with their current society.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><q cite="AwesomeDude">Well of course now we all know that the Worgen are going to be with the Alliance, but this is just to tell you why the naga would never be with the horde, or with the Alliance, *ahem*</p>
<p>    1. They’re incredibly evil, and in their highborne years served Azshara without question.</p>
<p>    2. The argument, “They’re high elves just like Sylvanas, so theres a connection there” doesn’t work, seeing as how High Elves are degenerated from Night Elves. When the sundering occured, the pink-skinned blood and high elves we know today had not existed yet. So, they would still be Night Elves, only ones who practice arcane magic or w/e.</q></p>
<p>Wow, I&#8217;m sorry but that shows a distinct lack of accurate knowledge of the Lore of WoW.  </p>
<p>1. Firstly, Naga didn&#8217;t exist when the Sundering occurred either.  The Naga are the Highborne elves (who were night elves at the time) who were twisted by the evil magics of the Old Golds after Azshara, Queen of the Kaldorei, made a pact with them.</p>
<p>2. High Elves and Blood Elves are those Highborne who didn&#8217;t go with the Queen into the depths but chose to join the Kaldorei Resistance before the last battle in the War of the Ancients.</p>
<p>3. The Naga still serve Azshara without question since she&#8217;s still their Queen due to her immortality mutation.  This point from what you said holds true with why they won&#8217;t join the Alliance, though not because of their time as Highborne.</p>
<p>I agree with the fact that Naga would never join the Alliance, but it has nothing to do with the Kaldorei blood lines, and everything to do with their current society.</p>
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		<title>By: kaelub</title>
		<link>http://www.loregy.com/world-of-warcraft/gilneas/comment-page-1/#comment-1097</link>
		<dc:creator>kaelub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 08:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i forgot this
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/cataclysm/media/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i forgot this<br />
<a href="http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/cataclysm/media/" rel="nofollow">http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/cataclysm/media/</a></p>
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		<title>By: kaelub</title>
		<link>http://www.loregy.com/world-of-warcraft/gilneas/comment-page-1/#comment-1096</link>
		<dc:creator>kaelub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 08:48:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>its for worgen witch strangly are on the alliance  side the night elfs recruted them and it will be in the exspanshin caled cataclysm  this is tru info and goblins are on the horid</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>its for worgen witch strangly are on the alliance  side the night elfs recruted them and it will be in the exspanshin caled cataclysm  this is tru info and goblins are on the horid</p>
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		<title>By: AwesomeDude</title>
		<link>http://www.loregy.com/world-of-warcraft/gilneas/comment-page-1/#comment-1086</link>
		<dc:creator>AwesomeDude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 08:51:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well of course now we all know that the Worgen are going to be with the Alliance, but this is just to tell you why the naga would never be with the horde, or with the Alliance, *ahem*
1. They&#039;re incredibly evil, and in their highborne years served Azshara without question.
2. The argument, &quot;They&#039;re high elves just like Sylvanas, so theres a connection there&quot; doesn&#039;t work, seeing as how High Elves are degenerated from Night Elves. When the sundering occured, the pink-skinned blood and high elves we know today had not existed yet. So, they would still be Night Elves, only ones who practice arcane magic or w/e.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well of course now we all know that the Worgen are going to be with the Alliance, but this is just to tell you why the naga would never be with the horde, or with the Alliance, *ahem*</p>
<p>1. They&#8217;re incredibly evil, and in their highborne years served Azshara without question.</p>
<p>2. The argument, &#8220;They&#8217;re high elves just like Sylvanas, so theres a connection there&#8221; doesn&#8217;t work, seeing as how High Elves are degenerated from Night Elves. When the sundering occured, the pink-skinned blood and high elves we know today had not existed yet. So, they would still be Night Elves, only ones who practice arcane magic or w/e.</p>
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		<title>By: Anguss</title>
		<link>http://www.loregy.com/world-of-warcraft/gilneas/comment-page-1/#comment-942</link>
		<dc:creator>Anguss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 05:06:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Going back and reading this thread with the advantage of current knowledge is fascinating, especially since some of those posting came pretty close to the mark, and even those who diverge present good cases that would have been plausible and pretty interesting if they had come to fruition.
I&#039;m particularly intrigued by the idea of a THIRD faction.   Forsaken splitting off would be cool, because of course we all agree that they don&#039;t quite feel right in the Horde, obviously having their own (decidedly dark) agenda.  I&#039;m Horde to the Core, but I have to admit I hate the Forsaken and wouldn&#039;t mind at all if they were in an enemy faction.
However, if you ever play the WoW Minis game, mobs are a playable faction in that.  I can imagine an Azeroth where you could choose to take control of some of the more interesting mobs with a bit of history, like Naga, furbolgs (though it just seems like a playable Ewok to me), ogres, either of the Piggy Men tribes... ooh, how about Dragonkin?
As for the economics of it, would you make the third race available only to those buying an expansion?  Or make them available to the Vanilla-only players (who are already going to have a whole new world to play in once Cataclysm hits)?
And what would a third faction do to BGs?  Would they all be adapted, or would new BGs be developed for tri-faction combat?
Anyway, we know now that there won&#039;t be a third faction in the foreseeable future, but I sure do find it fun to think about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Going back and reading this thread with the advantage of current knowledge is fascinating, especially since some of those posting came pretty close to the mark, and even those who diverge present good cases that would have been plausible and pretty interesting if they had come to fruition.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m particularly intrigued by the idea of a THIRD faction.   Forsaken splitting off would be cool, because of course we all agree that they don&#8217;t quite feel right in the Horde, obviously having their own (decidedly dark) agenda.  I&#8217;m Horde to the Core, but I have to admit I hate the Forsaken and wouldn&#8217;t mind at all if they were in an enemy faction.</p>
<p>However, if you ever play the WoW Minis game, mobs are a playable faction in that.  I can imagine an Azeroth where you could choose to take control of some of the more interesting mobs with a bit of history, like Naga, furbolgs (though it just seems like a playable Ewok to me), ogres, either of the Piggy Men tribes&#8230; ooh, how about Dragonkin?  </p>
<p>As for the economics of it, would you make the third race available only to those buying an expansion?  Or make them available to the Vanilla-only players (who are already going to have a whole new world to play in once Cataclysm hits)?</p>
<p>And what would a third faction do to BGs?  Would they all be adapted, or would new BGs be developed for tri-faction combat?  </p>
<p>Anyway, we know now that there won&#8217;t be a third faction in the foreseeable future, but I sure do find it fun to think about.</p>
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		<title>By: Cocles</title>
		<link>http://www.loregy.com/world-of-warcraft/gilneas/comment-page-1/#comment-919</link>
		<dc:creator>Cocles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 21:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blizzard is inconsistent with their relation to levels, so I&#039;d avoid using that when judging anything.  Remember, going by that logic, the elves are fighting tooth and nail to reclaim their homeland from... 10-20 Scourge.
In other words, game mechanics decide level ranges, not lore.  That and just being forgetful... why else would the ArchDruid of the entire Horde be level 62 with 3500 health?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blizzard is inconsistent with their relation to levels, so I&#8217;d avoid using that when judging anything.  Remember, going by that logic, the elves are fighting tooth and nail to reclaim their homeland from&#8230; 10-20 Scourge.</p>
<p>In other words, game mechanics decide level ranges, not lore.  That and just being forgetful&#8230; why else would the ArchDruid of the entire Horde be level 62 with 3500 health?</p>
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		<title>By: bob</title>
		<link>http://www.loregy.com/world-of-warcraft/gilneas/comment-page-1/#comment-917</link>
		<dc:creator>bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 18:05:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Riddle me this ...
How would the second strongest Human nation on Azeroth get overrun by 1-10 level Nagas?  This does NOT make sense.
Secondly, Blizzard already retconned too much lore in Lordaeron with the Blood Elves and High Elves, Forsaken, Dwarves ... I sincerely hope they don&#039;t mess around with it again.  Besides ... where would they put the alliance race in order to balance this lopsided positioning?  The middle of the Barrens?
It would make more sense to introduce a third faction alltogether.
There WILL BE BOTH Worgen an Naga there, however.  Gilneas will be a Combat Zone like Wintergrasp or Ahn Qiraj.  It really doesn&#039;t fit any other way at this point.  Think about ... and it will be awesome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Riddle me this &#8230; </p>
<p>How would the second strongest Human nation on Azeroth get overrun by 1-10 level Nagas?  This does NOT make sense.  </p>
<p>Secondly, Blizzard already retconned too much lore in Lordaeron with the Blood Elves and High Elves, Forsaken, Dwarves &#8230; I sincerely hope they don&#8217;t mess around with it again.  Besides &#8230; where would they put the alliance race in order to balance this lopsided positioning?  The middle of the Barrens?</p>
<p>It would make more sense to introduce a third faction alltogether.</p>
<p>There WILL BE BOTH Worgen an Naga there, however.  Gilneas will be a Combat Zone like Wintergrasp or Ahn Qiraj.  It really doesn&#8217;t fit any other way at this point.  Think about &#8230; and it will be awesome.</p>
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		<title>By: Brent</title>
		<link>http://www.loregy.com/world-of-warcraft/gilneas/comment-page-1/#comment-853</link>
		<dc:creator>Brent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 22:47:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m skeptical of the &quot;There&#039;s halloween masks so they *must* be the new races&quot; theory.
Blizzard had to introduce new masks into halloween to give people who&#039;d done all the achievements, something more to do.  Werewolves and goblins are halloween creatures anyway, so its not a stretch that they were simply just added.  If worgen are one of the new races, its more likely that Goblins were included to give a smokescreen.  When BElves were announced as the Horde Race in BC, Blizz did a lot to conceal the Draenei&#039;s existence.  We&#039;re not even a year into the current expansion, and close as 9 months out from the BC expansion they were still keeping it hidden.
Personally, I&#039;d be very disappointed if Goblins became playable, simply because they&#039;ve been billed for so long as the neutral faction, to the point of having their own factions etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m skeptical of the &#8220;There&#8217;s halloween masks so they *must* be the new races&#8221; theory.</p>
<p>Blizzard had to introduce new masks into halloween to give people who&#8217;d done all the achievements, something more to do.  Werewolves and goblins are halloween creatures anyway, so its not a stretch that they were simply just added.  If worgen are one of the new races, its more likely that Goblins were included to give a smokescreen.  When BElves were announced as the Horde Race in BC, Blizz did a lot to conceal the Draenei&#8217;s existence.  We&#8217;re not even a year into the current expansion, and close as 9 months out from the BC expansion they were still keeping it hidden.</p>
<p>Personally, I&#8217;d be very disappointed if Goblins became playable, simply because they&#8217;ve been billed for so long as the neutral faction, to the point of having their own factions etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Shylo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shylo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 19:33:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That island off of of tanaris i once heard was the goblin homeland. Recently i read also that some are wondering if gobbies will become playable races. Which would make since with  Brents theory.
The same source that wondered about the goblins becoming playable also wondered about the worgen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That island off of of tanaris i once heard was the goblin homeland. Recently i read also that some are wondering if gobbies will become playable races. Which would make since with  Brents theory. </p>
<p>The same source that wondered about the goblins becoming playable also wondered about the worgen.</p>
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