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		<title>By: Cocles</title>
		<link>http://www.loregy.com/world-of-warcraft/future-expansions/#comment-187</link>
		<dc:creator>Cocles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 00:34:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That's an interesting though.  I wouldn't be surprised if a Starcraft MMO was done at some point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s an interesting though.  I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if a Starcraft MMO was done at some point.</p>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
		<link>http://www.loregy.com/world-of-warcraft/future-expansions/#comment-185</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 09:08:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It could be that Starcraft II is setting up the universe for World of Starcraft, in the same way WC3 paved the way for WoW.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It could be that Starcraft II is setting up the universe for World of Starcraft, in the same way WC3 paved the way for WoW.</p>
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		<title>By: franks</title>
		<link>http://www.loregy.com/world-of-warcraft/future-expansions/#comment-181</link>
		<dc:creator>franks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 10:52:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OR, we would find out that Diablo, like outlands, is just another world in WoW. The expansion will be called Worlds Collide adding tons of new factions, bosses and conflicts. =D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OR, we would find out that Diablo, like outlands, is just another world in WoW. The expansion will be called Worlds Collide adding tons of new factions, bosses and conflicts. =D</p>
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		<title>By: GodfriedtheSplastickpaladin</title>
		<link>http://www.loregy.com/world-of-warcraft/future-expansions/#comment-173</link>
		<dc:creator>GodfriedtheSplastickpaladin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 07:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, explanation: Once Sargeras' mortal body is slain, his spirit lives on (obviously) now i haven't read any of the books, but i was thinking if we slay Sargeras, maybe he'll go back into Medivh and use a different tactic this time: The Horde.
He tried to fell the Alliance once by using the Horde, why not again? Except this time there's no control, its just that they think he is Thrall and so they follow his instructions. Then, once Medivh has rid himself of all the Alliance, he creates a civil war within the Horde. Then, after the war, he re-opens the Dark Portal (again, geez poor guy) and sends the Orcs back to Draenor where they belong.
Then, once he is the only living inhabitant aside from the few rogue humans.elves.trolls.and Tauren that still are wandering around, he goes to Quel'danas and taps the power of the Sunwell, becoming almost as powerful as a titan again. Then, with this amazing power, he kills all life on Azeroth, everything dies.
Finally, he reopens the portal to Sargeras' homeworld and constructs a new body out of the old one, a body to rival all other beings, then brings it back to life using the Sunwell. He re-enters Azeroth as a titan (Waaay bigger in size than anything on the world, he uses Teldrassil as a chair is how big he is.) And harnesses the power of The Emerald Dream into his newfound body. 
Sargeras is now reborn, more powerful than ever and finally sets his sights on a different world to conquer.
(It would be funny if that world turns out to be Sanctuary, which is the world of Diablo of course, and it turns out he is the one who created the Prime Evils and Warcraft was set hundreds of years before Diablo.)
Anyway, that would be the plan. 
Sargeras Owns All.
-Peace</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, explanation: Once Sargeras&#8217; mortal body is slain, his spirit lives on (obviously) now i haven&#8217;t read any of the books, but i was thinking if we slay Sargeras, maybe he&#8217;ll go back into Medivh and use a different tactic this time: The Horde.<br />
He tried to fell the Alliance once by using the Horde, why not again? Except this time there&#8217;s no control, its just that they think he is Thrall and so they follow his instructions. Then, once Medivh has rid himself of all the Alliance, he creates a civil war within the Horde. Then, after the war, he re-opens the Dark Portal (again, geez poor guy) and sends the Orcs back to Draenor where they belong.<br />
Then, once he is the only living inhabitant aside from the few rogue humans.elves.trolls.and Tauren that still are wandering around, he goes to Quel&#8217;danas and taps the power of the Sunwell, becoming almost as powerful as a titan again. Then, with this amazing power, he kills all life on Azeroth, everything dies.<br />
Finally, he reopens the portal to Sargeras&#8217; homeworld and constructs a new body out of the old one, a body to rival all other beings, then brings it back to life using the Sunwell. He re-enters Azeroth as a titan (Waaay bigger in size than anything on the world, he uses Teldrassil as a chair is how big he is.) And harnesses the power of The Emerald Dream into his newfound body.<br />
Sargeras is now reborn, more powerful than ever and finally sets his sights on a different world to conquer.<br />
(It would be funny if that world turns out to be Sanctuary, which is the world of Diablo of course, and it turns out he is the one who created the Prime Evils and Warcraft was set hundreds of years before Diablo.)<br />
Anyway, that would be the plan.<br />
Sargeras Owns All.<br />
-Peace</p>
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		<title>By: GodfriedtheSplastickpaladin</title>
		<link>http://www.loregy.com/world-of-warcraft/future-expansions/#comment-172</link>
		<dc:creator>GodfriedtheSplastickpaladin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 07:19:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about this? 
-The end of World of Warcraft: The Torn Cosmos (The final expansion pack.)
All of the Epic bosses have been slain, the Legion is conquered, Sargeras isn't dead but he won't be assaulting Azeroth anytime soon. The heroes of both the Horde and the Alliance return home and seal The Dark Portal and the Portal to Sargeras' homeworld. They sink the Maelstrom, issue formal peace agreements (Leaving open the 'for sport' grounds like Eye of the Storm and Warsong Gulch) and the world is at peace, 
-Fade Out-
*Drums of War*
-Fade in-
Zoom in on Orgrimmar, Thrall is returning to his throne room, his age is obvious as he heaves off his armor in exchange for a leather jerkin. As he slides it on, his head jerks and a line of blood runs between his eyes. His body falls to the floor, and a shadowy figure comes out, there is no face but an outline of a man in a black robe.
-Medivh's Voice- Good Night, Thrall. The world is in good hands...
*End of World of Warcraft*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about this?<br />
-The end of World of Warcraft: The Torn Cosmos (The final expansion pack.)<br />
All of the Epic bosses have been slain, the Legion is conquered, Sargeras isn&#8217;t dead but he won&#8217;t be assaulting Azeroth anytime soon. The heroes of both the Horde and the Alliance return home and seal The Dark Portal and the Portal to Sargeras&#8217; homeworld. They sink the Maelstrom, issue formal peace agreements (Leaving open the &#8216;for sport&#8217; grounds like Eye of the Storm and Warsong Gulch) and the world is at peace,<br />
-Fade Out-<br />
*Drums of War*<br />
-Fade in-<br />
Zoom in on Orgrimmar, Thrall is returning to his throne room, his age is obvious as he heaves off his armor in exchange for a leather jerkin. As he slides it on, his head jerks and a line of blood runs between his eyes. His body falls to the floor, and a shadowy figure comes out, there is no face but an outline of a man in a black robe.<br />
-Medivh&#8217;s Voice- Good Night, Thrall. The world is in good hands&#8230;<br />
*End of World of Warcraft*</p>
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		<title>By: Cocles</title>
		<link>http://www.loregy.com/world-of-warcraft/future-expansions/#comment-166</link>
		<dc:creator>Cocles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 03:46:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seine - Like it says in the post, don't forget about the 3 remaining old gods and Azshara.  Eventually though, yes, they're going to run out and have to start creating stuff from scratch.

I'm sure Warcraft 4 will repopulate our roster of bosses for World of Warcraft 2. ;)

As far as Medivh goes, the story of how he was actually resurrected was revealed in the novels "Cycle of Hatred" and a little bit in "The Last Guardian".  He's definitely an MIA good guy right now unless they pull some sort of weird 180 with him (and that wouldn't be surprising).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seine - Like it says in the post, don&#8217;t forget about the 3 remaining old gods and Azshara.  Eventually though, yes, they&#8217;re going to run out and have to start creating stuff from scratch.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure Warcraft 4 will repopulate our roster of bosses for World of Warcraft 2. <img src='http://www.loregy.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>As far as Medivh goes, the story of how he was actually resurrected was revealed in the novels &#8220;Cycle of Hatred&#8221; and a little bit in &#8220;The Last Guardian&#8221;.  He&#8217;s definitely an MIA good guy right now unless they pull some sort of weird 180 with him (and that wouldn&#8217;t be surprising).</p>
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		<title>By: Seine</title>
		<link>http://www.loregy.com/world-of-warcraft/future-expansions/#comment-165</link>
		<dc:creator>Seine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 23:18:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ok really all thats left too kill after WotLK is Sargeras, real Kil'Jaden, and Medivh he could like pop up out of no were and hes all evil and shit.....or hell we could go fight mograine again but hes alive like a CoT event or something and its all like fucking epic....really blizz is running out of people to kill and when we kill everyone we are just gonna be sitting around playing checkers after that....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok really all thats left too kill after WotLK is Sargeras, real Kil&#8217;Jaden, and Medivh he could like pop up out of no were and hes all evil and shit&#8230;..or hell we could go fight mograine again but hes alive like a CoT event or something and its all like fucking epic&#8230;.really blizz is running out of people to kill and when we kill everyone we are just gonna be sitting around playing checkers after that&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Cocles</title>
		<link>http://www.loregy.com/world-of-warcraft/future-expansions/#comment-163</link>
		<dc:creator>Cocles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 07:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Possibly, but remember that history is circular.  Eventually people will leave wow just as they did UO, and EQ.  Many jumped to AoC over the past week.  The trick for Blizzard then is for when WoW finally does go the way of EQ, that they have another MMO for their fan-base to jump to.  Fortunately, we all already know for fact that Blizzard is currently making an entirely new MMO.

Not that I think WoW is going anywhere soon.  Even my own guess has WoW expanding up through 2013.  For 2008 though, we saw people just leave for AoC, I think we'll see more leave for Warhammer this fall.  Then this winter I think we'll see some of those come back for WOTLK.

Not that any of this leaving is bad.  Blizzard would be the first to admit (maybe not on the record) that their numbers are bloated simply because up until AoC there really was no competition.  Even with an unbloated number though, I think WoW will be the most popular MMO on the market for a long time to come. ;)

Your idea of spectator raiding is definitely cool.  Blizzard should invite some of the top guilds to come do that at BlizzCon 2008.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Possibly, but remember that history is circular.  Eventually people will leave wow just as they did UO, and EQ.  Many jumped to AoC over the past week.  The trick for Blizzard then is for when WoW finally does go the way of EQ, that they have another MMO for their fan-base to jump to.  Fortunately, we all already know for fact that Blizzard is currently making an entirely new MMO.</p>
<p>Not that I think WoW is going anywhere soon.  Even my own guess has WoW expanding up through 2013.  For 2008 though, we saw people just leave for AoC, I think we&#8217;ll see more leave for Warhammer this fall.  Then this winter I think we&#8217;ll see some of those come back for WOTLK.</p>
<p>Not that any of this leaving is bad.  Blizzard would be the first to admit (maybe not on the record) that their numbers are bloated simply because up until AoC there really was no competition.  Even with an unbloated number though, I think WoW will be the most popular MMO on the market for a long time to come. <img src='http://www.loregy.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Your idea of spectator raiding is definitely cool.  Blizzard should invite some of the top guilds to come do that at BlizzCon 2008.</p>
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		<title>By: wowmaniac</title>
		<link>http://www.loregy.com/world-of-warcraft/future-expansions/#comment-162</link>
		<dc:creator>wowmaniac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 00:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Before you say that the wow will stop consider this 
blizard have millions active acounts (i think it had 8 million worldwide) for each acount blizard takes 13€ per month or 156€ per years this mean for 8 million it takes 1,248 billion € per year! if the next expansionas proved successful blizard will not stop release more and more! if blizzard run out of bosses from warcraft 3 it will introduce or invent new bosses! It may introduce a warcraft 4 or 5! be realist wow is just a product and go for wow2 is like try introduce a new product! if blizard do it will have the risk  
that a lot of players jump to other games or stop games alone! which of the blizards manager will take this risk? the answer is simple noone ! the only way blizzard stop realese new expantions is just people stop playing wow! now the profits of wow is huge and the bosses just come from the brains of the creative team of blizard! now blizard is the bigest company on onlines games so it can have the best creative team ! this will quaranty a lot of future expansions for our pleasure! personally i believe that on future the wow will be something like football today ! all we will play but there will be organized pvp/pve teams that will go on on stadiums to see like the nihilum live raids but in bigger rage</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before you say that the wow will stop consider this<br />
blizard have millions active acounts (i think it had 8 million worldwide) for each acount blizard takes 13€ per month or 156€ per years this mean for 8 million it takes 1,248 billion € per year! if the next expansionas proved successful blizard will not stop release more and more! if blizzard run out of bosses from warcraft 3 it will introduce or invent new bosses! It may introduce a warcraft 4 or 5! be realist wow is just a product and go for wow2 is like try introduce a new product! if blizard do it will have the risk<br />
that a lot of players jump to other games or stop games alone! which of the blizards manager will take this risk? the answer is simple noone ! the only way blizzard stop realese new expantions is just people stop playing wow! now the profits of wow is huge and the bosses just come from the brains of the creative team of blizard! now blizard is the bigest company on onlines games so it can have the best creative team ! this will quaranty a lot of future expansions for our pleasure! personally i believe that on future the wow will be something like football today ! all we will play but there will be organized pvp/pve teams that will go on on stadiums to see like the nihilum live raids but in bigger rage</p>
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		<title>By: Cocles</title>
		<link>http://www.loregy.com/world-of-warcraft/future-expansions/#comment-87</link>
		<dc:creator>Cocles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 09:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, like you said... all you need is one Pit Lord and you have Fel Orcs.  It's not unreasonable to say we wiped out the Burning Legion and a few Pit Lords survived.  Wiping out the Burning Legion is going to be like wiping out any group of races.  You're going to have a few who always manage to get away.

As far as corruptors go, sure, the old gods and the Sargeras are the big ones, but don't forget Ner'Zhul (more on him in a sec) and plenty of other bosses, right down to Hakkar.  Remember that most of the stuff we're seeing now was added in WC3.  It wouldn't be hard for them to add more stuff once again in WC4.

I definitely think Sargeras and all of the Old Gods are goners.  You're right though that they should leave Sargeras capable of being reborn, and you make a good point with Sauron.  Sargerus is too good a villain to completely let die.  Sure you could bring in something else, but to have it be in the same league as Sargeras (and unknown up until this time) would feel a bit contrived.  You already know what I think about Ki'Jaeden; Illidan needs to wipe the floor with him.

I'm trying to remember what it was, but Metzen said something at Blizzcon that made me all but certain that Ner'zhul will survive WOTLK.

At the end of the day I really do think that Azeroth will implode after the events of WoW.  I understand your point with epic fights and I agree, but I think that applies more to MMO's than a strategy game.  What I think the Warcraft franchise needs is WoW, then WC4 which will deal with the implosion and the immediate aftermath, and then WoW2 taking place a few years after WC4.  One facet of WC4 would be setting up these massive, epic bosses for WoW2.

And yeah... Naaru exist in cycles.  Look at M'uru.  What do you think A'dal is going to be like when he goes bad?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, like you said&#8230; all you need is one Pit Lord and you have Fel Orcs.  It&#8217;s not unreasonable to say we wiped out the Burning Legion and a few Pit Lords survived.  Wiping out the Burning Legion is going to be like wiping out any group of races.  You&#8217;re going to have a few who always manage to get away.</p>
<p>As far as corruptors go, sure, the old gods and the Sargeras are the big ones, but don&#8217;t forget Ner&#8217;Zhul (more on him in a sec) and plenty of other bosses, right down to Hakkar.  Remember that most of the stuff we&#8217;re seeing now was added in WC3.  It wouldn&#8217;t be hard for them to add more stuff once again in WC4.</p>
<p>I definitely think Sargeras and all of the Old Gods are goners.  You&#8217;re right though that they should leave Sargeras capable of being reborn, and you make a good point with Sauron.  Sargerus is too good a villain to completely let die.  Sure you could bring in something else, but to have it be in the same league as Sargeras (and unknown up until this time) would feel a bit contrived.  You already know what I think about Ki&#8217;Jaeden; Illidan needs to wipe the floor with him.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m trying to remember what it was, but Metzen said something at Blizzcon that made me all but certain that Ner&#8217;zhul will survive WOTLK.</p>
<p>At the end of the day I really do think that Azeroth will implode after the events of WoW.  I understand your point with epic fights and I agree, but I think that applies more to MMO&#8217;s than a strategy game.  What I think the Warcraft franchise needs is WoW, then WC4 which will deal with the implosion and the immediate aftermath, and then WoW2 taking place a few years after WC4.  One facet of WC4 would be setting up these massive, epic bosses for WoW2.</p>
<p>And yeah&#8230; Naaru exist in cycles.  Look at M&#8217;uru.  What do you think A&#8217;dal is going to be like when he goes bad?</p>
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