Comments on: Bolvar Fordragon’s Return? http://www.loregy.com/world-of-warcraft/bolvar-fordragons-return/ Game Lore Discussion Tue, 09 Mar 2010 21:17:51 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Dan http://www.loregy.com/world-of-warcraft/bolvar-fordragons-return/comment-page-1/#comment-1118 Dan Fri, 29 Jan 2010 21:11:20 +0000 http://www.loregy.com/?p=586#comment-1118 Uh, why are you trying to turn Varian Wrynn into a "villain" by speculating he will become the next Lich King? You forget what Uther says in the Halls of Reflection when talking about the "next" Lich King...."A grand sacrifice by a noble soul". I take that to mean the next Lich King wont be a villain or evil at all. Infact I think there are only two possible candidates for the new Lich King after Arthas is killed......Bolvar Fordragon or Darian Mograine Uh, why are you trying to turn Varian Wrynn into a “villain” by speculating he will become the next Lich King? You forget what Uther says in the Halls of Reflection when talking about the “next” Lich King….”A grand sacrifice by a noble soul”. I take that to mean the next Lich King wont be a villain or evil at all. Infact I think there are only two possible candidates for the new Lich King after Arthas is killed……Bolvar Fordragon or Darian Mograine

]]> By: Nini http://www.loregy.com/world-of-warcraft/bolvar-fordragons-return/comment-page-1/#comment-1115 Nini Mon, 25 Jan 2010 00:29:55 +0000 http://www.loregy.com/?p=586#comment-1115 Well, also, look at the tendency Arthas has to bone over his enemies. Look what he did to Sylvanus. She's not just a banshee, she's THE banshee. Bolvar has been a thorn in his side for how long? Immolated Champion/Smoldering ....Dude.... I mean, think about it. Burning for eternity. He could be in constant pain that drives him beyond sanity and makes him into nothing more than an undead wraith blazing with pure rage. Only Arthas really has the power to keep him on a chain. When Arthas kicks it, BFF (Bolvar Fordragon Flambe) up there might just go batshit with nobody left to tie him down. So the players waste 'em and, I dunno, throw him in a lake to put him out or something, he has a heartfelt speech and then dies. Maybe the Naaru will get involved (remember them?) like the paladin guy... Just speculation, of course. :3 Well, also, look at the tendency Arthas has to bone over his enemies. Look what he did to Sylvanus. She’s not just a banshee, she’s THE banshee. Bolvar has been a thorn in his side for how long?

Immolated Champion/Smoldering ….Dude…. I mean, think about it. Burning for eternity. He could be in constant pain that drives him beyond sanity and makes him into nothing more than an undead wraith blazing with pure rage. Only Arthas really has the power to keep him on a chain. When Arthas kicks it, BFF (Bolvar Fordragon Flambe) up there might just go batshit with nobody left to tie him down. So the players waste ‘em and, I dunno, throw him in a lake to put him out or something, he has a heartfelt speech and then dies.

Maybe the Naaru will get involved (remember them?) like the paladin guy…

Just speculation, of course. :3

]]> By: Woes http://www.loregy.com/world-of-warcraft/bolvar-fordragons-return/comment-page-1/#comment-1109 Woes Thu, 14 Jan 2010 09:54:39 +0000 http://www.loregy.com/?p=586#comment-1109 The scourge needs a leader, without any leadership whole azeroth is going to be overun. The tiny bit of Arthas that still is inside the Lich King holds the undead leashed.....and it needs a new leash when the Lich King is nomore. Bolvar could be his own faction. The scourge needs a leader, without any leadership whole azeroth is going to be overun. The tiny bit of Arthas that still is inside the Lich King holds the undead leashed…..and it needs a new leash when the Lich King is nomore.

Bolvar could be his own faction.

]]> By: durt http://www.loregy.com/world-of-warcraft/bolvar-fordragons-return/comment-page-1/#comment-1084 durt Sun, 13 Dec 2009 19:14:29 +0000 http://www.loregy.com/?p=586#comment-1084 after seeing the dialogue between Uther amd Jaina, i think the new Lich King indeed will be Bolvar after seeing the dialogue between Uther amd Jaina, i think the new Lich King indeed will be Bolvar

]]> By: tw http://www.loregy.com/world-of-warcraft/bolvar-fordragons-return/comment-page-1/#comment-1047 tw Thu, 05 Nov 2009 14:43:11 +0000 http://www.loregy.com/?p=586#comment-1047 why do you feel there will be a next Lich King? i see no point in that. cataclysm/deathwing is the next chapter/storyline/plot of the next expansion. not "lich king 2" why do you feel there will be a next Lich King?
i see no point in that. cataclysm/deathwing is the next chapter/storyline/plot of the next expansion. not “lich king 2″

]]> By: Thurokiir http://www.loregy.com/world-of-warcraft/bolvar-fordragons-return/comment-page-1/#comment-1044 Thurokiir Fri, 30 Oct 2009 07:47:22 +0000 http://www.loregy.com/?p=586#comment-1044 Because he definitely looks like a walking ashbringer to be quite honest. Metal, smoldering light, a terminator gaze that screams "get in my way, I will kill you" So if we fight Saurfang, who says we HAVE to fight Bolvar? Where and how does this indicate Bolvar? Yea he's a bad dude, but all of us flocking to it seems hasty. It could be another major lore figure like Uther and blizzard might have something else in store for fordragon. Blizzard puts stuff on the PTR like this because they KNOW people will data mine it, you get incomplete random models put up and suddenly taken away, but this, a fully rendered complete model this is just a give away. I'm not saying it cannot be Bolvar, though speculation is always good ;). I'm really curious to see how this pans out because what that model shows is nothing like the lich kings previous creations, hell it looks more menacing and intimidating than Arthas himself. ~Hail mary posting this here because I want it on record in case of the 1% chance it happens~ Someone sacrifices him self to the ashbringer much like First Ashbringers wielder, and something really badass happens instead of the holy light explosion. JUSSAYIN, This is Blizz, granddaddy of the left field. Because he definitely looks like a walking ashbringer to be quite honest. Metal, smoldering light, a terminator gaze that screams “get in my way, I will kill you” So if we fight Saurfang, who says we HAVE to fight Bolvar?

Where and how does this indicate Bolvar? Yea he’s a bad dude, but all of us flocking to it seems hasty. It could be another major lore figure like Uther and blizzard might have something else in store for fordragon.

Blizzard puts stuff on the PTR like this because they KNOW people will data mine it, you get incomplete random models put up and suddenly taken away, but this, a fully rendered complete model this is just a give away. I’m not saying it cannot be Bolvar, though speculation is always good ;) .

I’m really curious to see how this pans out because what that model shows is nothing like the lich kings previous creations, hell it looks more menacing and intimidating than Arthas himself.

~Hail mary posting this here because I want it on record in case of the 1% chance it happens~

Someone sacrifices him self to the ashbringer much like First Ashbringers wielder, and something really badass happens instead of the holy light explosion.

JUSSAYIN, This is Blizz, granddaddy of the left field.

]]> By: Thurokiir http://www.loregy.com/world-of-warcraft/bolvar-fordragons-return/comment-page-1/#comment-1043 Thurokiir Fri, 30 Oct 2009 07:39:40 +0000 http://www.loregy.com/?p=586#comment-1043 Imagine trying to turn someone so pure and attached to the light that as they resist the darkness the powers of light and dark collide so strongly that it burns the medium that they fight over. That's my quick thought about it. Imagine trying to turn someone so pure and attached to the light that as they resist the darkness the powers of light and dark collide so strongly that it burns the medium that they fight over. That’s my quick thought about it.

]]> By: Betty http://www.loregy.com/world-of-warcraft/bolvar-fordragons-return/comment-page-1/#comment-1041 Betty Tue, 27 Oct 2009 10:10:44 +0000 http://www.loregy.com/?p=586#comment-1041 Presuming that the Bolvar/Saurfang fight is not faction specific means it could possibly be a timed event or hardmode switch? I'm guessing it also means the standard fight does not involve both Bolvar and Saurfang meaning 1 may die before you reach there. I can see 3 situations: * Reach Bolvar after he's been turned and he's killed Saurfang - fight Bolvar * Reach Bolvar before he's turned and he helps kill Saurfang * Reach Bolvar after he's been turned and he hasn't killed Saurfang yet - fight Bolvar and Saurfang at same time? Of course the 3rd situation (both at once) sounds the hardest but it wouldn't be the hardest to reach on time (before bolvar is turned). Although since they said hardmodes would be UI activated and not race to the finish style in ICC Presuming that the Bolvar/Saurfang fight is not faction specific means it could possibly be a timed event or hardmode switch? I’m guessing it also means the standard fight does not involve both Bolvar and Saurfang meaning 1 may die before you reach there.

I can see 3 situations:
* Reach Bolvar after he’s been turned and he’s killed Saurfang – fight Bolvar
* Reach Bolvar before he’s turned and he helps kill Saurfang
* Reach Bolvar after he’s been turned and he hasn’t killed Saurfang yet – fight Bolvar and Saurfang at same time?

Of course the 3rd situation (both at once) sounds the hardest but it wouldn’t be the hardest to reach on time (before bolvar is turned).

Although since they said hardmodes would be UI activated and not race to the finish style in ICC

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